…from 1969 to 1973 you served as associate dean of student affairs. Was that just a name change because we were no longer in the structure of Dean of Women, Dean of Men?
The national organizations changed their names. We had a Dean of Women's organization that had been in existence since 1920, had all the top professional women in the country. Well, they struggled to survive, and so a lot of those organizations changed their names, and campuses dropped the title "Dean of Men", "Dean of Women", and went to associate deans. Dean Tate was opposed to it, and in some ways I was, but anyway those titles were changed, and some of the responsibilities were given to him and some to me, but that was a result of the change in how students were related to during that period.